Without meeting her husband, what are some ways to tell a woman is involved in an unhappy marriage?

Just through conversation alone, what are some signs to look for in trying to tell whether a woman is involved in an unhappy, loveless marriage? That is, without ever seeing the woman and her husband together, how can you tell by her conversation with you, and through other non-verbal cues she is not in love with her husband anymore.Without meeting her husband, what are some ways to tell a woman is involved in an unhappy marriage?
Usually women that are unhappy in their marriage, dont keep quiet about it.. when talking to friends .. she'll let something slip about something he's done, thats upset her, or in a joking manner she'll say something to put down her marriage or her husband..(always alittle truth in the jokes) Or they can go the opposite way if they are talking to someone that is gloating about how happy they are in their marriage, they'll tend to shy away from the convo, or change the subject..Without meeting her husband, what are some ways to tell a woman is involved in an unhappy marriage?
it really is impossible to tell.... how many people end up shock when they find out one of their couples they know filed for divorce... it's impossible to tell what goes on behind closed doors....





HOwever if someone is trying to find clues to see if one of the spouses is available they should wait until the couple has filed for separation or divorce... as long as they are together they are working on the marriage... that's the bottom-line.
Wow! What a loaded ?. I am curious why you are asking. Is it because you want to attract an affair, or just trying to ';read'; someone? If I had to pick one or two out of the endless list, I would say: body language. (how she feels about herself, how high she holds her head up, how positive her conversation language is, ). I am going through a divorce from a loveless marriage right now. I, however, am positive and confident in myself to continue loving my life and being a single mom. To be honest, I can't wait until I meet someone who can give me some hot and heavy long involved love-making. I have the ';availiable'; vibes while I make eye contact with everyone I meet thee days.
Why is it so important for you to know if this woman is happily married or not? If this woman is unhappy and she considered you her friend, then she would confide in you.
You will never know from facial expressions or body language. She may not want to talk about her marriage or even her husband to anyone. That should tell you she is unhappy.
when they start talking negatively about their spouse or putting him down in conversations
If she doesn't say it out loud, it's none of your business to know. Leave well alone.
A lot of us are just found on YA!
When they go online and ask many questions about it. Are you unhappy Rita?
when they cheat...and u see them with other men

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What jobs can I get with a Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy?

I am 1/2 way throughmy Masters degree and I because I live on the Big Island of Hawaii jobs for MFT's seem limited. Does anyone know what jobs are out there?What jobs can I get with a Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy?
This degree leads to becoming a MFT therapist. Once you take the exam and become licensed by the state, you will be able to work in an agency or for the government. There is a great need for this in all of the U.S., including HI. Once you have your supervision hours, you will be able to open a private practice if you so desire. You have many options. Perhaps you could benefit from meeting with a career counselor at your university to discuss this further.





Best wishes.

Why does marriage change a fox into an elephant?

I married a fox who magically transformed into an elephant. Does an antidote to this spell exist?Why does marriage change a fox into an elephant?
Yes, somehow the elephants seem to turn back into a fox when they become single again, but only long enough to get the next sucker.





Let me guess, you didn't just marry her, you got her pregnant too. She waited until she had a firm grasp on your wallet, then porked right up. Typical western woman.Why does marriage change a fox into an elephant?
I married a fox who is still a fox 8 years later. You can't get so comfortable in a relationship that you stop trying. Some men do the same thing. After marriage, some people decide they've got the person theywant so they don't have to try as hard anymore....wrong! If you want to stay happy together you should both continue to take care of yourselves and try to stay attractive to each other. Any long term relationship goes through changes, but people need to realize that they can't just give up and let themselves go.
Buy her a wii and start playing tennis and boxing with her. My husband was 210 lbs. and I got him this wii, he boxed and bowled and tennised away, sweating, and now he weighs like 170. True story! And the reason I got the idea about the wii is that I saw some youtube where the guy did a before and after video of himself, with lots of fast forwarded tape showing him boxing with his girlfriend, and he lost 10 pounds in a month. It's the solution, and it's fun.
trying passing a few bowling ball weights thru your peeper after carrying them for 9 mo. and feed them and care for them 24-7 for 18 or more years!!!!! ( btw thats not true of all women i weigh the same as i did 8 years ago w/ three kids). THE REAL QUESTION IS..... are you the man that she had back then? id bet anything you have abeer belly paunch on you and dont treat her the same.
Marriage has nothing to do with that...BTW.....there must be something bothering her b'coz of that she is not able to manage her weight...being a partner i think its ur job to motivate her to practice healthy habits.....also take care of her emotional needs.
talking to the elephant frankly about it.





creating a plan TOGETHER that makes the elephant change back into a fox





supporting the elephant into becoming healthier.
Yes, it is called a cure for depression...Perhaps she is miserable and eating to compensate...





Marriage doesn't change plenty of people from good looking to slobs.
Yeah one of the risks you take by getting married. The old adage why is the bride smiling down the aisle? She knows she given her last ********.
Usually if she gets rid of a DOPE.


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I don't know of one, unless she decides that she wants to convert back for her health. This does not happen to everyone.....
Why does marriage change Prince Charming into a frog?
Money?

Is it harmful to inject a small amount of someone elses blood into my body in a marriage ritual?

my lover and i came up w this notion while planning our union. we wish to become as ';one '; as possible. we have exchanged many bodily fluids during lovemaking including menstrual blood, but we need to find out if our plan to mainline a small amount of eachothers blood could be hazardous to our health. we are not worried about std's, but are very curious about any other dangerous side effects. neither of us know our blood type.Is it harmful to inject a small amount of someone elses blood into my body in a marriage ritual?
It's true - if you have incompatable blood types there could be a reaction - but you would have to exchange a large amount of blood for that to happen. Your body won't have any ill effects from just a little bit of blood. I'm curious how you think you'll manage to do it?Is it harmful to inject a small amount of someone elses blood into my body in a marriage ritual?
I am puking but it is your life do with it as you please
I dont know what to say about this question
Na go for it. I mean you love each other
need to find out if your blood types are compatible if they are no problem, but if not big problem , it will react as poison . any foreign /unknown object in your blood stream , you and the other person could get very sick
Ye it is harmful. You could get AIDS.
Interesting never heard of something like that..


I am not someone who knows a lot about blood types and what could happened if .....


But i wouldn't do something like it.There could be a lot more then std in our blood.like MRSA now


Tomorrow who knows what..And what if you have kids one day ...What would happened to them if both of you are gone or very sick...Who's gonna be there for them ..


I think the love is about two different people(blood) love and respect each other .Not being brother and sister kind of thing


But of course it is your decision and your life


All the best
why not just settle for a tattoo which is more permanent.,don't do it because what about diabetes and stuff that may not have been detected yet.,aniemia etc.
I guess its OK... just make sure you both have a medical checkup on blood related ailments first... if your both OK... go for it... why not?

What is the point of abstaining from sex until marriage?

I'm 15, and pretty much all of my friends have lost their virginity by now. It's been so easy to keep from doing it but all of a sudden I feel like there's all this pressure, and part of me is insisting I'll be happier if I do have sex now instead of waiting.


I envy my friends. It'll be like a whole decade if I wait!What is the point of abstaining from sex until marriage?
As a woman who waited til I was married let me tell you.....





It is the best decision I've ever made. Sex is not just a recreational sport. It's about love and commitment and there is nothing more satisfying than sex with a person that you love and are spending the rest of your life with and knows loves you right back. Also, people really respect you when you wait. It takes a lot of will power but it's totally doable...and I'm not just talking about everything except intercourse...blow jobs, fingering....everything. It's so much better to wait for the whole package.What is the point of abstaining from sex until marriage?
if you have sex now you really wont have anything to look foward to in the future

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Until you are in a serious relationship where true love is present, you will not get the full pleasure out of the experience. The reason people wait is because of the value that it adds to a meaningful relationship. You want to be with someone who values that same thing and recognizes how special that experience is. You don't have to wait until marriage unless that is something you truly believe is right, but you will be happy you waited until you are at least in love. Not to mention, you want to be sure that the person you are having sex with really likes you and not the fact that you will have sex with them. And that is not just a teenage thing ...that's how men are.
It's a somewhat dated and somewhat invalid idea or belief that was much stronger in decades past.





Back then 3 out of 4 marriages didn't end in divorce as they do now. No matter when you decide to have sex for the first time, and no matter if you wait to get married or not you still run numerous risks. What if you did find that ';perfect'; someone, married, had sex, got pregnant, had a kid, and then that ';perfect'; match left you for someone else? What if that ';perfect'; someone decided he wanted to get some on the side? There are all sorts of things that can go wrong even if you wait.





The best thing is know what it feels right between the two of you. Don't do it just to do it, for money, or because of peer pressure. Then again don't wait just because ';It was the way you were raised'; either. Marriage is nowhere near as sacred as it once was, and therefore should not necessarily be waited upon to start having sex.





Hope that helped.
Well, it is a sin to have sex before you are married, but probably like 98 percent of people don't follow that rule anyways... God asks us in the Bible to wait to have sex until we have found ';the one'; and until the wedding night. He says the reward is great and you will have that much closer and sanctified relationship with your spouse.





I have chosen to wait, and I actually have lots of friends who are waiting too, so maybe it is on an upward trend??? Maybe not, but hey, it would definitely not be a bad decision to wait. No reason for shame, it shows alot about you and your character...





Hope this helps, and good luck! :)
The usual answer to this is that sex is part of marriage, and separating that from marriage and enjoying it on its own cheapens relationships. Giving up your body to many others devalues it and makes it less special. One writer called sex no more than a horizontal handshake. She was being bitter.





But, it's up to you. Hormones are running high, people get lonely, do what you want. You will anyway.
you might feel all this pressure now but a decade later do you want to say you had sex with this guy you can't stand to even look at in the yearbook because all your friends ';pressured'; you into doing it? wait until you're out of highschool then all those friends will go their own seperate ways... BTW sex never feels good the first couple times
I sit on the fence with this - my first guy was my husband (and I was his first), and then he decided that he wanted to be with other people after about 5 years.





So I have had a few partners since then - but I was having serial partners at age 30-something when I was more aware of my own identity and if things didn't work out, I was able to put it into some kind of context and know it wasn't just because of my failings that it didn't work.





Sex is a really intimate thing if you are going to do it well and enjoy it (I might add I see a lot of teens on here who get into it and don't seem to be enjoying it that much) - so it is not something to be wasted on just some random guy.





You need to first of all know yourself and know what you want before you have sex, and I think that I would not have known those things much before 20 years old.
because SEX has a point. to make babies. and to bond/unite more closely a couple bound together by matrimony.





ask yourself if you're willing to give the most precious most beautiful gift you will ever be able to give anyone to one of the boys you could have sex with now.





why wouldnt you want to wait for your future husband? virginity is a completely beautiful gift that can only be given ONCE.
Ok Think long and hard because once you make this choice it could change your entire life. I got pregnant at 17 on the pill. She is 11 now and I wouldn't trade her for anything but I still wonder what if I had made different choices. Also make sure when you do that it is with someone you really love and trust. Respect yourself enough to wait until you are sure you are ready.
i have always wondered that my self. but you have to respect. the people that do want to wait. and wait and wait.
it is your choice...





if you want sex, have it... if you don't, then don't... :D
i no what u mean its the same with me but nothing is wrong wit w8ing.
The point of abstaining from sex is to find out who you are as compared to who your friends are. I didn't wait until marriage, myself, but I did wait until I was in a relationship with someone I cared for very much (we are now married). Having sex because all your friends are doing it is the worst reason to do so. You will be happier waiting until you know in your heart and mind that you are with someone who you trust and care for and who trusts and cares for you, too. Sex means nothing if you just have it for the sake of having it.
I'm right there with ya chica.





I never imagined I'd ever consider NOT waiting until marriage...





Now I'm considering...





The idea sounds so... I dunno... My friends and I always like the same things and they say it's fun... So I kinda wanna try it.





But it's morals. I've grown up being hounded about it's for marriage. And when I think about it, they're right. If you have sex with someone before you're married, what's left for your husband? I think it'd be awesome to have something to give him and only him.





So I'm waiting. Even though I've come uber close already with my boyfriend :(

Can hiding a psychological ailment before marriage be a ground for divorce / annulment of marriage?

I got married 3 months ago. My wife was going through psychological treatment (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) before marriage which was told to me only on our honeymoon. I have been trying to cope-up with the situation ever since but she is not able to adjust with me or my family. Her psychiatrist is now treating her for depression as well. I don't think that we will be able to live together. What legal resolve do I have? Can this be a ground for divorce / annulment of marriage?Can hiding a psychological ailment before marriage be a ground for divorce / annulment of marriage?
Non disclosure of facts relating to herself can be held as fraud committed on you for obtaining your consent for marriage.


However the conditions attached to this ground for obtaining annulment of marriage are:


1.The petition for annulment should be filled within one year of disclosure/discovery of the fraud.


2. The petitioner should not have condoned the fraud.


3. There should not be any relationship of husband-wife after the fraud was discovered by the petitioner.





The second part of the question is can divorce be obtained on the ground of the unfit mental condition, yes that too can be obtained provided the respondent has been incurably of unsound mind, or has suffering continuously or intermittently from mental disorder of such a kind and to such an extent that the petitioner cannot reasonably be expected to live with the respondent.





Explanation- In this clause-





(a) the expression ';mental disorder'; means mental illness, arrested or incomplete development of mind, psychopathic disorder or any other disorder or disability of mind and include schizophrenia;





(b) the expression ';psychopathic disorder'; means a persistent disorder or disability of mind (whether or not including sub-normality of intelligence) which results in abnormally aggressive or seriously irresponsible conduct on the part of the other party and whether or not it requires or is susceptible to medical treatment;


The general rule is that the district court will not entertain the petition for divorce within first year of marriage, however in exceptional cases that too can rule relating to the time period can be condoned by the court.Can hiding a psychological ailment before marriage be a ground for divorce / annulment of marriage?
The answer to your question is contemplated under sub-section (iii) of Section 13 of the Hindu Marriages Act, which says, ';has been incurably of unsound mind, or has been suffering continuously or intermittently from mental disorder of such a kind and to such an extent that the petitioner cannot reasonably be expected to live with the respondent';. If your wife falls within the category contemplated above, which you have to verify from the medical records, you may file a Petition for Divorce under the aforesaid section.





However, in my opinion since your marriage has taken place only 3 months back, you may with the support of the family members try to understand her problem and give remedy, before proceeding to initiate divorce proceedings.
Although I don't think that it is grounds for divorce right away, I think that it's a serious issue that you should talk to her about!





If she didn't feel comfortable enough telling you about the issues she was having and what she was going through, she shouldn't have married you. This isn't your fault at all. I think she did the wrong thing NOT telling you what was going on with her.





Maybe start talking to her psychiatrist as well about ways to resolve her issues together. Start small and work through it with her and maybe you will come to understand what she's going through, and maybe she'll trust you more.





Psychological problems are not easy, suffering from anxiety and depression myself, it takes a while for me to build up enough trust to tell someone about it - but it is never something I would hide from someone I love.
Do you love her? Do you really love her?





Why do you want to divorce? Is it because you really don't think that you can live with this, or because you're angry that she didn't tell you, and you feel like she lied to you by omission?





Yes, she should have told you before the honeymoon, but I'm sure there are things about you that she doesn't know - things that aren't as difficult to deal with, but eventually as you get to know each other, you will gradually know each other more %26amp; deeper, %26amp; you will say ';I didn't know that about you.';





Yes, she should have told you. But she is in treatment for this - and that shows that she does want to be healthy. If you really love her, you will stay by her side - that's what you vowed - for better or worse - not to leave at the first sign of trouble.
Until you live with them, you have no idea ';how deep the rabbit hole does'; even if you do know they are OCD.





Another reason why you do not marry someone not willing to cohabitate.





If she deliberately withheld it, seek an annulment and failing that divorce.





There is NO ';working this out';.


There is no ';her getting better';.


This is not a ';sickness'; she heals from.


It is part of who she is.


All, all you can possibly do is Accept It as a permanent part of your life together.





She lied to him about who she is to trick him into marriage.


Yeah, she loves him doesn't she?
why did you marry her it was clearly not for love or you not wrote such a horrible question, you really need to be there for her and stop looking for a out claws,if you ever got really sick would you like it for her to walk out on you


I have a family member with this aliment and it not a big deal once help is got and can be control, with support, the issue for her is that this time such a big change and the disorder she has like to keep everything the same,
Yes. She lied to you, or rather, she kept something from you which was vital in your decision as to whether to marry her or not. You were marrying her without full knowledge.





If she had developed the condition AFTER being married to you that would be a different matter. But since you say she had it before and didnt tell you, then you have grounds for annulment.
You can get a divorce over ';irreconcilable differences'; which just means you don't want to be married anymore...that's all it takes. Yes, I'd say someone lying about or hiding the fact they had a mental illness (or any illness) would be considered grounds for divorce. You were mislead.





Talk to an attorney though, we aren't legal counsel.
It might be, but it kind of sucks that eventhough you took vows that said in sickness and in health you want to run when she is depresesed/sick and needs support. If you loved her before, how does her being sick change that? I dont think her keeping it form you was right, but maybe her not telling you is part of her sickness. People with mental disturbances often have some emotional issues, and that could have kept her from telling you.
Ok it was not right of her not to let you know about all her issues before you got married.





But you made the vows 'for better or for worse'





Deal with it!! You can't back out as it is not a pretty picture.


If something had happened to you, wouldn't you expect her to be there for you.
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is common. If you love her, you can work this out. Did you not have a clue before marriage? Then you did not get to know each other enough before marriage. She may be depressed because you are judging her. Next time, take a lot of time to get to know someone.
How long did you know her, five minutes? I would think you would have noticed. I think you are justified in leaving if she intentionally kept it from you. I have bipolar disorder and so does my husband. It's despicable that she lied to you about a mental illness, and this is lying.
Possibly for annulment, as you don't need to have 'grounds' for a divorce (irreconcilable differences work just fine)...Talk to your attorney.
No... but welcome to the Marriage american dream! lol hhahahahahahha





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Watch the video and learn!!
Yes - she deliberately concealed this from you. The ';for better or worse'; does not mean that you can ';lie'; about the worse and trick someone into marrying you. She absolutely tricked you.
contact a lawyer
You have got to be joking!! So much for the ';in sickness %26amp; in health'; part of your vows..I have OCD, depression, post traumatic stress disorder, anxiety %26amp; panic attacks....I take medication for it %26amp; I am fine. My husband loves me for me-- problems and all.....Go ahead and divorce her she probably deserves someone better than you anyways. God forbid you stay with her %26amp; she develops some health problem later down the road.....you'd be the first one to abandon her.

What is the legal difference between Civil union and marriage?

What is the legal difference between Civil union and marriage?


In canadaWhat is the legal difference between Civil union and marriage?
Civil Unions do not exist in Canada, with the exception being Quebec for a brief period of time.





The Federal Government is responsible for the definition of marriage while the provinces are responsible for the administration of marriage.





Earlier in the decade provincial courts began striking down marriage laws as being unconstitutional due to its infringement on Equality Rights. Most provinces started allowing for same-sex marriages immediately following the court rulings. Quebec enacted legislation that created Civil Union for same-sex couples. Civil unions carried the same legal benefits as marriage, but were not the same as marriage.





In 2005 the Civil Marriage Act was passed through Parliament. As a result, marriage was no longer considered to be between a man and a woman. It also recognized that no one would be forced to perform same-sex marriage if it were against their religious beliefs.What is the legal difference between Civil union and marriage?
Ok...





atheists, even if they don't get married in a church, are still considered married, they get a marriage certificate from the state (unless they're gay)





it's the certificate that gives all of the legal benefits of marriages





in some states civil unions give a few rights of marriage


in some civil unions give all the rights of marriage that the state can give





the federal government doesn't give any benefits to gays because of a law passed in 1996, (social security, death tax, etc)
Nothing as far as I know.

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How does a person get out of a bad marriage when they do not have enough money to go live on thier own?

Plus, my name is on the current lease and would not that make me responsible for the rent even if I am not here?How does a person get out of a bad marriage when they do not have enough money to go live on thier own?
You can get out of a bad marriage for $0 by transforming it into a good marriage. You can make your marriage every bit as good as you both want and choose to make it.How does a person get out of a bad marriage when they do not have enough money to go live on thier own?
If it's in your name you will be responsible for it, yes.





Either talk to the landlord and see about breaking the lease early.





Or suck it up until the lease it up. If your married then your both legally allowed to live there -- even if his name isn't on the lease he is legally allowed because your married. You can move out, but you will still be responsible for the rent because your name is on the contract.





Anyway, file for separation immediately and then start divorce proceedings. Uncontested divorce is easiest and cheapest and will run you only a couple hundred. In the mean time though determine the living situation and start socking money away where you can for the divorce. Start looking online or at books in the library about budgeting and cutting living expenses down to necessities.





It CAN be done, but you might have to make a few sacrifices along the way. The sooner you file for separation -- the sooner you can work out the problem with the lease and being stuck in the same household as your husband.
you could go to family and friends or to your local social services, you may want to think about a woman's shelter, until you get on your feet. if a person want out bad enough, they will get out someway. and yes you're responsible for the apartment, unless you can get your landlord to put it in your husband's name. because if he doesn't pay it, somewhere down the line you'll end up in court with the landlord. and if its a divorce you're looking for check out legal aid.
So you are in a bad marriage and want to go where? To have a bad friendship too? or going back to your parents? For how long?


Stay while getting ready to fly away for your own freedom.


Get a job, save money, re-do the lease in a month-to month bases, have a transportation and try by all means to be independent. Then you are ready to leave.
Do like most of the whoores do these days and have another guy to mooch off of until you get tired of him then move on to the next one.
There has to be someone that would take you in until you get back on your feet. Talk to your landlord and explain the situation, sub-lease?


Best of luck.
get a job or better job and move out. Find a friend to move in with. Move in with family.
Put everything in his name or get a job and pay for it yourself and kick him out. either way you win he loses . Good trade off right?
Go live with family.
Get a job..save some money and tell your partner it is over. If you want out you will find a way....they always do!

Can the ideology of separate but equal as originally intended be applied to the ban on gay marriage? why?

Gay activist are comparing the ban on gay marriage to the civil rights movement ';separate but equal'; status with Blacks. What do you think? Can the ideology of separate but equal as originally intended be applied to the ban on gay marriage? why?
Yes, it can.





Whether the seats in the front of the bus are for some people while the seats in the back are for others, one water fountain is for some people while another water fountain is for others, or a marriage license is for some people while a ';Civil Union'; or ';Domestic Partnership'; is for others, all employ the same discriminatory reasoning of Separate but Equal.Can the ideology of separate but equal as originally intended be applied to the ban on gay marriage? why?
Interesting what others that have answered this question here think. If nothing else it shows just how fractured we are as gay people even among ourselves regarding this issue. If separate but equal wasn't good enough in the battle for civil rights what makes anyone think it is good enough now? In fact, shouldn't that argument be that civil rights apply to all people? That battle wasn't just a color issue. Comparing the battle for gay marriage equality to the women's movement's struggle for the right to vote is a new one on me. Are we asking anyone to redefine marriage? Actually, what I think we're trying to do is stop those who want to limit it's existing definition. Legally marriage is domestic partnership between two consenting adults. The man and woman part is a religious issue. That being said it has no place in in this argument. You'll notice that the proposed changes to state's and the federal constitution seek to limit the definition of marriage to one man and one woman NOT the other way around.
i had a discussion with my friends about this. i think its not the same as the civil rights movement. There isn't as much emphasis being put on the gay marriage ban as the civil rights movement, for example you don't see gay people being physically attacked or verbally abused on a daily basis because they are gay. yes i know it does happen, but it's not talked about 24/7. it is impossible for everyone to know who is gay, but yet if you are black/white everyone knows it. so because of the color of your skin you're automatically a target.
Yes, I think the ';separate, but equal'; finding should apply to same-sex marriage. Our Constitution guarantees equal protection under the law to all citizens and unfortunately the current situation creates two separate classes: those who can enjoy the benefits of civil marriage and those who cannot. There are many who argue that domestic partnerships can have all of the benefits of marriage, but for some reason heterosexual couples don't seem to be jumping on board domestic partnerships instead of marriage. That suggests to me that there is something inherently unequal to domestic partnerships.
I think it has more in common with womens rights movement then the civil rights movement because marriage, by definition is between man and woman and gays want to change that definition, like with the women's movement, only men could vote and women wanted to change that definition to where as both men and women could vote. I honestly think gay marriage has nothing in commen with the civil rights movement, black people are people just like white people, they were equal to begin with but being denied that they were people.
I think ';civil unions'; are an example of how ';separate but equal'; doesn't work.





Here in New Jersey we've had civil unions for about 2 years now. They're supposed to be equivalent to marriage, but hundreds of gay and lesbian couples who've gotten civil-unioned in the last 2 years have found that they are NOT treated the same as a heterosexual married couple would be, with regards to company health benefits, pension plans and other spousal benefits, because they are not considered ';married'; by their employers' health insurance carriers, pension plan administrators, etc.





So all that talk about civil unions being separate but equal to marriage is just BS. It doesn't work. People understand what you mean when you say that you and your partner are MARRIED, and they respect that relationship -- they don't necessarily understand what a CIVIL UNION is, nor do they respect it as equivalent to marriage.
It is not ';The civil rights activist's stance...'; anymore. No. this question was settled by the Supreme Court. ';Separate but equal'; does not hold in any area of law. The precedent has been set. If any further case like it goes to the Supreme Court like this the ruling will be the same.
I think they're in the right. Marriage is marriage; with all that it implies (spousal listing on medical records, income tax credits, etc.) and civil unions aren't marriage. Anything else is less. Separate isn't equal.
Civil rights are based on traits. Homosexuality is an activity. I've met ex-homosexuals. I've never met an ex-black.
Separate is never equal, give us all the rights and privileges that straight married people have and I don't care if you call it marriage, civil union, or tuna fish casserole
I think the presidential election is more important. And who cares anyway. Whats the big deal.

If gay marriage is legalized and gays were refused church weddings, could they file discrimination lawsuits?

If so, how would these suits be effected by the first amendment?If gay marriage is legalized and gays were refused church weddings, could they file discrimination lawsuits?
I assume not, but there is another way in which recognition of same-sex marriage might affect religious freedom. I am thinking of tax exemptions.





During the civil rights movement, the tax exemption regulations were amended to include a public policy exception - organizations otherwise exempt under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code lost that exemption if they were racially discriminatory - even if it was a church.





Any legislation that in effect treated sexual orientation the same as race, in terms of anti-discrimination laws would most likely be followed by expanding the public policy exception to churches that were deemed to discriminate against gays. The logic - that the government withdraw tax exemption from private entities (even churches) that discriminate against government-defined categories - would seem to lead inescapably to this result. But the problem would be that by doing so, the government would be discriminating against one set of religious beliefs in relation to another. And, as opposed to racial discrimination, the situation would exist without the kind of national consensus about gay rights that we achieved about the injustice of racial discrimination, and with arguably a far more central tenet of the religion being at issue (since many religious leaders led the abolition and civil rights movements, I don't think much of an argument can be made that discrimination against African-Americans was in any way a fundamental teaching of the Judeo-Christian religions).





This could be a huge issue.





Here's an article I just found, and skimmed. I am not familiar with the author or the source, and this article might be biased. but it should give some background, for what it's worth:





http://www.becketfund.org/files/70e6d.pd鈥?/a>





PS Another link, from the same group. They obviously have their point of view, but it's at least one side of the story:





http://www.becketfund.org/files/34a97.pd鈥?/a>If gay marriage is legalized and gays were refused church weddings, could they file discrimination lawsuits?
They could file a lawsuit, but very unlikely they would win because of the separation of church and state.





Churches are exempted from being compliant with the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) and a person with a disability wouldn't win a lawsuit if a church didn't have a ramp.





However, most churches do try to make their place of worship accessible to all, because it's the right thing to do. Their practices do vary and a gay couple may have to shop around for the right church if they wish to marry in one.
I imagine that anyone can file suit if they choose, but the only article I can find of an actual suit is from last year, when a lesbian couple filed suit against a church for refusing to allow them to have a civil union on their premises. The article indicates that the church was trying to avoid going to court and would mediate with the couple.





As far as how any suits would be affected by the 1st Amendment, that remains to be seen. Could be tricky for the government to tell a church they have to do something, while trying to maintain the image of separation of church and state.






This is a short list of churches under suit in state courts for denying homosexual couples things they want:





California Lutheran High School is being sued for discrimination for expelling two lesbian students. The lawsuit seeks to compel the school to violate its religious beliefs regarding sexual morality, by forcing it to change its policies and practices, or close down.





Catholic Charities in Massachusetts was forced to close down its adoption agencies for its refusal to place children with same-sex couples. The city of Boston and its children lost the services that accounted for some 75 per cent of all adoptions because it refused to accommodate Catholic Charities鈥?religious convictions and practices


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In New York, Yeshiva University, an Orthodox Jewish school, was required to open up its married student housing facilities to same sex couples.





In Berkeley and San Diego, scouting groups have been denied the use of free public facilities they historically enjoyed, for refusing to agree to permit gay men to serve as scout leaders.





Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association, a Methodist facility in New Jersey, has lost a discrimination case filed by a same sex couple that was denied permission to use the chapel for a civil union ceremony. It is on appeal. In a related case, the Association has been stripped of its exemption from real property taxes.





A family planning clinic and its Christian doctors in California have been sued by a lesbian couple for discrimination, and the lower courts have ruled that they cannot even raise any religious freedom defense. The case is on appeal to the California Supreme Court, where the Church State Council filed a brief.





The New Mexico Human Rights Commission awarded $6,600 in legal fees to a same sex couple, when a Christian wedding photographer refused to film their commitment ceremony because it violated her religious beliefs.





If these are not blatant violations of the First Amendment to the USA, then our country is lost Our Founding Fathers feared religious persecution for a reason; the next step is tyranny.
Good question! But I would say no. Churches are allowed to choose who they marry. We're talking about civil marriage here.





For example, a friend of mine wanted to get married in her Catholic church to a man who wasn't Catholic. They said they never do that unless the man takes classes there for several months! They got married in his church instead. I've heard Catholic churches, in particular, are very choosy about who they marry, but I've never heard of anyone suing them, have you?





But there is an interesting idea there. The first amendment bans government from making laws that interfere with the practice of religion, meaning that churches are allowed to refuse to marry gays. But what if a church refused to marry a black couple? Would that be legal? Probably not. I'm not sure! If it's illegal to refuse to sanction a marriage because of race, or even religion, then it would be for gays too.





I doubt it will be a problem, though. There are gay-friendly churches that would love to have church weddings for gay people.
No, since churches have the right to refuse performing marriage for anybody that they want. Churches in my area often won't perform a marriage if one of the people has been married before.


Besides, I don't think that the government would be able to get involved, thanks to the serperation of church and state.
No. Churches have the right to refuse to marry anyone they want. And, there are other places other than a church weeding to get married. A justice of the peace can perform the marriage in a non-religious format.





Marriage is NOT only a religious ceremony. It is also a LEGAL union.
Not all churches would turn them down.





As it is, there are churches who refuse to conduct certain marriages; I'm pretty sure those folks can't sue the church.





Notice, churches can't be sued for other discrimination they commit (against Blacks and women, for instance).
Doubtful, for example some churches currently have restrictions against divorced members marrying.





Usually one choses a church that follows its values. For example, as a Reform Jew my church has performed marriages for gay and lesbian couples since 2000.
No. For example, the Supreme Court declared interracial marriage legal about 40 years ago, but some churches still don't do it. There has never been a successful lawsuit about this. Marriage licenses from the government are completely independent of religion.
No church or minister is required to marry anyone.
I forget the name of it - but I am sure that church would marry them. It's the one Chris Reeves attended. They would probably all go there. But it looks like most just do city hall.
No

Why is it even women from a divorce background meeting a guy from a divorce background want marriage ?

Those women have seen what divorce was like for their father, the boyfriend told her probably what the divorce was like for his father, you would think those women would be like, I love you I do not want to risk something like that happening to you, lets just cohabit.


But nooo!





Oftentimes they even resort to blackmail (no sex, marriage or I leave) to get that ring on their hand. Why is that ?Why is it even women from a divorce background meeting a guy from a divorce background want marriage ?
because of ';that's the right time'; law.





or, in many cases beacause of an incredible incapability to look back in their past and in their lifes.





the man: ';no need to think, she's beautiful';


the woman: ';no need to think, he has the money';Why is it even women from a divorce background meeting a guy from a divorce background want marriage ?
Cassius- you are generalizing and putting all women in one category. After my divorce the dead last thing i wanted was marriage. I dumped 2 bfs. cause they wouldnt stop harping on getting married. My husband I am married to now asked for 2 solid years before I would marry him. The only reason I didnt dump him was that I loved him so strongly (he wasnt pressuring me, he just asked occasionally,) even though I wasnt willing to marry him. All women are not after marriage. I didnt blackmail my ex husband into marrying me, he asked. All women are not the same, just like all men are not the same. If you are in a relationship where someone is pressuring you to marry, I think that is an unhealthy relationship and maybe it is time to examine her motives. Is she already preggers by someone else and trying to hide it by getting you to marry her? That happened to someone I know. Is she hiding her true self until you marry her and is afraid that it will show if it takes to long to get down the aisle? Try to talk to her about what the rush is. If you cannot get a straight answer and things dont change it may be time to move on.
This is an amazing phenomenon for me to understand too,





I for one, If I were to get divorced (god forbid), I'd NEVER marry again. No way.


Would I be lonely? perhaps, but that's what one night stands are for, then it's Get the F out of my house! lol...j/k sort of.





Anyway, I think the reasons range from:





social status : Married people are seen as validated, respectable--if you don't believe me, there are corporate standards people at the top who say these things.





religion: These people marry often because it is a stigma they are not married and it is assumed they are having sex out of wedlock if they remain single--especially if they are young(er).





money/security: These people range from people who just don't want to be alone as they grow older all the way to


wanting to latch on to a man who has a big financial portfolio so they can live the high life and then steal the man's inheritance from his children from his previous marriage(s) when he dies.


(this is a common story, the older rich man marries the younger trophy wife and she gets all his money,


he doesn't even have to be ';rich';, it still happens, the law is on the side of the last spouse--he/she gets almost everything and the kids get nothing, this is why prenuptual agreements are so important).
Maybe they have different expectations and envision a different outcome for their relationship. Maybe having parents who divorced has helped them understand the importance of a good marriage and has increased their desire for one. Maybe she simply loves the man and knows that she won't do to him what his/her family did.
You couldn't pay me to get married again.





However, people need to experience life on their own. You can't live your life vicariously through someone else's experiences.
Look how many people fall into misfortune after winning the lottery.





Doesn't mean I dont want to win the lottery.
They want security.
People who have been married before are more likely to marry than people who have never married
';THe triumph of optimism over experience'; - Dr. Johnson

In virginia can you get the court declare a marriage null if is less than 6 months?

I got married 5 months ago and I want to get divorced. Will it be easier to get it null ( if is still posible) than getting divorced or what can I do? In virginia can you get the court declare a marriage null if is less than 6 months?
You can only get a marriage annulled for specific reasons.


This is the General Statute in Virginia that defines the reasons a marriage can be annulled:


Va. Code 搂20-89.1. Suit to annul marriage. (a) When a marriage is alleged to be void or voidable for any of the causes mentioned in 搂搂搂搂 20-13, 20-38.1, 20-45.1 or by virtue of fraud or duress, either party may institute a suit for annulling the same; and upon proof of the nullity of the marriage, it shall be decreed void by a decree of annulment. (b) In the case of natural or incurable impotency of body existing at the time of entering into the marriage contract, or when, prior to the marriage, either party, without the knowledge of the other, had been convicted of a felony, or when, at the time of the marriage, the wife, without the knowledge of the husband, was with child by some person other than the husband, or where the husband, without knowledge of the wife, had fathered a child born to a woman other than the wife within ten months after the date of the solemnization of the marriage, or where, prior to the marriage, either party had been, without the knowledge of the other, a prostitute, a decree of annulment may be entered upon proof, on complaint of the party aggrieved. (c) No annulment for a marriage alleged to be void or voidable under subsection (b) of 搂搂 20-45.1, subsection (b) of this section or by virtue of fraud or duress shall be decreed if it appears that the party applying for such annulment has cohabited with the other after knowledge of the facts giving rise to what otherwise would have been grounds for annulment; and, in no event shall any such decree be entered if the parties had been married for a period of two years prior to the institution of such suit for annulment. (d) A party who, at the time of such marriage as is mentioned in 搂搂 20-48 or 搂搂 20-49, was capable of consenting with a party not so capable, shall not be permitted to institute a suit for the purpose of annulling such marriage.





You have to get a divorce.In virginia can you get the court declare a marriage null if is less than 6 months?
An annulment is not easier to get than a divorce. In order to get an annulment, you have to grounds for it. Contrary to popular belief, short-term marriage or 鈥榖uyer鈥檚 remorse鈥?is not grounds for annulment. Grounds for annulment typically include things like the marriage was not legal to begin with (ie one party was already married to someone else, one party was a minor and didn鈥檛 have parental consent, etc), one party entered into the marriage under fraud or duress, etc. If you don鈥檛 have valid annulment grounds (and few people do) you can鈥檛 get an annulment.
typically in most states, it will null a marriage for a year. check with your county court house they will be able to give you the correct information for your state and county. but if he does not agree, you will have to divorce and that will take lawyers and judges and months of your time.
You have up until a year to get it null in most states....and it is easier than getting divorced.....so you better get it null if it is that bad ..
Go get it null but i think you have to have a witness.

Why do people seek to redefine the meaning of marriage?

I mean, after all, in California, the meaning of marriage was ';a union between two consenting adults';, and some group decided to go in and REDEFINE marriage to be ';a union between a man and a woman';.





Why do these people wish to redefine marriage?Why do people seek to redefine the meaning of marriage?
They are undermining our traditional institutions (of equality and freedom)!Why do people seek to redefine the meaning of marriage?
Narrow mindedness. The reason California had the definition as a union between two consenting adults was so people who live together as mates could file joint tax returns. Ninety percent of the hoopla would go away if the National and State governments would just not make marriage a requirement to file a joint tax return.
Well, technically they just wanted it changed back to the old definition (all old dictionaries, and a lot of new ones, have the ';man and woman'; phrase in the definition of ';marriage';). But just because that's the old way doesn't mean it's right. For example, slavery was originally legal in all 13 colonies.
marriage has been redefined repeatedly throughout the years. it's only very recently that people chose who they are going to marry.








unfortunately, the sloppy and slow masses in california are trying to redefine it to take away basic civil rights from people because of the kind of sex they have. give it time, the supreme court will fix it.
I know, just like in the 19th century when all of a sudden marriage was about love, and not keeping women as property. What a bunch of tripe, keep the Biblical definition of marriage: one man and an indeterminate number of women to be bought and sold.
If you make all the laws completely conform to the constitution, where else can you go? The Christians just wanted to keep some of our segregation alive so we can have something to improve on for next year. It's a clever tactic I use in the workplace to make sure I am always improving.
Because it is unconstitutional not to. That doesnt mean it has to be approved by the church, but by discriminating on a group in a historically government based institution (marriage) is unconstitutional
Honestly, it's a fallout from the Victorian ages, people are too soon to forget that just 100 years ago marriages really were still arranged in America. It was all political, love was not even a factor. This freedom has gone to their heads.
Because somehow homosexuality threatens their heterosexuality.





However, I wonder how. Doesn't the only people that the act of homosexuality bother be the people who intend to spy on them? I mean who else would care what Bob and Tom do in their bedroom?
The one and only type of marriage that God sanctifies is a marriage between one man and his wife.All other types of marriage is blasphemy.
Some people are just that ignorant.





Some people need someone to pick on.





Others need the entire gay community to pick on.





It's very sad indeed that some need to ignore facts and deny rights just to make themselves feel safe.
Because they are incredibly insecure, and just about anything has the potential to rock their worlds.
Fear.





Fear rules every non-sensical decision.
they are afraid to see two homosexuals happy together. that would ruin their lives and they would only be able to bully the atheists then
Because too many Americans are homophobes.
Because they are those bigotted dolts that some parts of America seem amply blessed with
religion poisons everything...
Forget ';REdefining'; it. Why did ';people'; think they had the ability to DEFINE it in the first place?
Methinks they doth protest too much.
After the word ';BIGOTRY'; what is there to understand?!!!
No redefining. It means what it always HAS meant. A union between a man and woman.








Sorry, Adam and Steve.
so they can continue sinning and have someone condone it..





GOD DEFINES MARRIAGE NOT CALIF.....LOL

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How can I get a certified copy of my marriage certificate?

I need to get my name changed on a lot of documents but I don't want to send my marriage certificate away if I can help it, how can I get a certified copy, where from and can I get it for free?How can I get a certified copy of my marriage certificate?
Your bank or building society will usually do this for you free of charge, but you will still find that you will have to send your marriage certificate off to some Companies, a lot of them will not accept a copy - certified or not





Why not get an extra copy or two of your marriage certificate? It cost us 拢14 for two and I used those to send off so we still had one should they have gone missingHow can I get a certified copy of my marriage certificate?
You won't get a free copy. You can get additional copies from the county or city clerk's office. They charge a fee, usually around $20, for each copy.





When I got married in 2004 I just made copies of the original certificate, my driver's license (with the name change) and sent letters off to everyone telling them to change the name on the account.
I don't think you can ever get them for free because someone has to do the work to look them up, make copies, get them certified and send them to you.





It's usually the county court house where you were married.





Here's a website:


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w.htm
Call Social Security 1 800 252 1213 they know everything. Tip:Make a copy of your original and include it with the request for a certified copy. I guarantee you will get the certified copy within days.
You call the clerks office in the county in which you were married and they have a nominal charge.
Contact the church or registry office where you got married. They can supply you with a copy.
Court house in the county you were married. Some have online request forms.

What do you wish you would have known about marriage before you tied the knot?

Is there something you wish you would have done (maybe pre-marriage counseling, or living together, or something along those lines), wish someone would have told you?What do you wish you would have known about marriage before you tied the knot?
Been married 22 years.





Married a woman with 2 kids - she had been divorced for 8 years when I met her. Her ex-husband had been totally out of the picture - kids never saw him.





We were together as a family for 5 years.


Then the kids hit 18 - and no more child support was due - their father started coming back into their life. And the kids started saying how much they had missed having their Dad around. The Dad wanted the kids to do things with him - but only those things that he selected. Never anything the kids picked out.





The more time passes, the more their Dad pushes back into the picture. But he is still living with the woman he was dating while married to their Mom.





At every family get together - the kids and their Mom talk about the Dad. Even at my birthday party (he wasn't invited). Not just a couple of questions, but they can go on for hours about him. Their family trait is to gossip for hours about people. But he is by far - the center of attention.





I have gotten to the point, (after 22 years of this) that I'm just tired of hearing about him.





When the kids were younger, they didn't talk about their Dad all the time. When they were younger, not only didn't the Dad want to pay the child support - and it was a small amount - I was putting out more money to support his kids than he was. But he never wanted to be around the kids.





I can only remember seeing him at one event when the kids were in their teens. When his son was 14 and playing little league baseball, the Dad showed up and yelled at his son when he was up to bat. The Dad kept yelling for the son to hit a GRAND SLAM HOME RUN. Problem was - there was on one on base - so there was no way anyone could hit a GRAND SLAM HOME RUN.What do you wish you would have known about marriage before you tied the knot?
Don't try to be something/someone you are not in order to be what you think the other wants you to be. Be yourself to the max; find someone who digs the real you and can comfortably be them-self with you. Have lots of conversation on a wide variety of issues, concerns and interests. Don't be overwhelmed by the sugar, spice and ecstasy that you lose sight of the totality of the relationship. Good, I repeat, good premarital counseling that helps you see beyond the roses can really help. Peace and Joy to you and yours.
i wish i had looked deeper into his past, and seen how he treated others he was suppose to have loved. but people like my ex hid things well, pretended and showed only his best side before marriage, so some things just can't be seen. some behaviors just aren't seen until after the marriage, when they let down their guard, and the true them emerges.but his family knew, and maybe someone should have warned me about the other 3 wives before me, and how he cheated on them too.
I didn't marry this chick, but one day she pulls me into her bedroom, lifts a case from under her bed, and lifted out a whip.





When I asked her if it was for her....she said ';no';.





Blew out of that house like a bat outta hell! I don't think I even touched the floor.
i dont think things like that make much of a difference. You can still fake your way through counseling or hide sides of yourself while living together. the only way you really know a person is time.
I wish we talked more about what we wanted from life. we don't have the same goals and priorities which makes major decisions very difficult
I would have wanted to live together. Then I would have been slightly more prepared for what to expect. But, all is well now, so no big deal!
Yes, I wish someone had told me not to put your dick in a women before you get married and don't ever marry a ****.
Gold flecked eyes!

What Percentage of British Pakistanis that choose an arranged marriage with someone from Pakistan?

Go on to live Live in Pakistan as opposed to Britain.What Percentage of British Pakistanis that choose an arranged marriage with someone from Pakistan?
not many I should say.What Percentage of British Pakistanis that choose an arranged marriage with someone from Pakistan?
thank you Phillip H :)

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It is not more than 25 %. More and more British pakistanis are opting to marry with Britain based muslim girls of their choice. Marrying someone who is selected by your parents / uncles is not so hot these days but it still, is practised.
Who can tell?


Many would hazard a guess but guesses and stetistics make very poor bedfellows.
Less than 5% I would say, its basically one big immigration scam.

Why do we spend so much time fighting gay marriage?

I really do not see the issue whatsoever. Rights are Rights. You're either equal or you're not. Why do religious people want to run everyone else's life?Why do we spend so much time fighting gay marriage?
I have no clue why some people have a problem with gay marriage, I believe everyone should have the opportunity to be miserable in your marriage. I also believe if you can't trust me with making the right decision for me, how could you trust me with a baby.Why do we spend so much time fighting gay marriage?
It's tokenism. Religious people (mostly Christians) are called upon to be proactive in their defense of of their religion. Therefore, the opportunity to deny giving equal rights to gays in the form of marriage, their perceived holy and sacred right, is a great way to win points with God. Instead of working to develop legislation that makes divorce harder and keeps lawyers from profiting so much from it, they would rather keep people who are going to hell for trying to be happy from participating in the marriage institution. Protecting marriage's ';sacredness'; is a good way to get to heaven quick. That's why they do it. Truly it has nothing to do with protecting anything (and what the hell did they think they were protecting marriage from?) from anyone and it's all rhetoric fueled by hate, self-righteousness, and prejudice. It's so stupid. Gays want marriage for its legal benefits, not its ';holy'; benefits. I guess the religious people forget that the law does not take into account the religious aspect of marriage. Whatever.
I am straight and religeous and I was sadden today when I heard about what has happened in California. I mean, not a few months ago it was totally cool for gay people to marry if they wish but now they are taking that right away from them. I think it is bull crap and I don't know why so many people let it bother them. If it is against their religeon and bugs them,they should just ignore it. I am religeous but I also believe that people should be able to do as they wish as long as it is not hurting anyone. I just wish there was some way to make everyone happy, because i think it is not fair :( I can marry who I choose but if I chose another woman it would be illegal?? i think its messed up.
Because if my marriage is valid my straight neighbor will run off with the mailman, his wife will develop a fatal attraction for the lady who works at the bank, his pit bulls will become twin miniature beagles named Lady Jane and Rochester, their daughter will join Dykes on Bikes and his son will want to become a hairdresser and start dating a guy named Beastly Brucie.
Independently gay marriage is ok in the bible to be legal I believe. Everyone should have the right to choose to go to hell. However, they should not be able to adopt children. It would be unfair to the child. I would of been very mad if the government did that to me.
I think your ? is great, thanks for bringing it up.


The guy who first answered is obviously a fanatic, so it's probably difficult to sympathize with his position.





To be honest with you, I happen to be a lesbian in a committed relationship, I have never tried drugs in my life-who cares if i had anyways seriously, I happen to have spirituality and faith, and also I believe that I have the God-given right to be treated with the same respect as my fellow citizens. Isn't it strange that we are separated in this way? That I am an actual 2nd class citizen in the US, I often cannot believe it myself and I wonder what in the heck I am doing here. Except that I was born here and I feel all of the self righteous ideals that come along with a childhood in the great country of N America.


I don't know who you are or what you do with your free time, but I would urge (even plead with) you to go out and volunteer in the human rights movement, start writing to Pres Obama every day to get Federal Legislation out there, to get us OUR Emancipation Proclamation, bc this #*(%26amp; is not right and somehow someway we have got to get real about it. 40 years after the I have a Dream speech we have a AF Am President, so we all know it's possible to get some DAMN EQUALITY around here, we have to make ourselves heard already ....
I don't know...I think that republicans are so judgemental. they think they are God almighty. They worry so much about what other people are doing with thier personal lives that they are missing the big picture! UGHh!
Idk. I'm very religious, and I'm a lesbian as well. It's just society as a whole.
They don't like others to have fun.Just like Pep Boys.
';Hate dresses well to please a buyer.';
Isn't that in the Bible? JUDGE OTHERS BECAUSE YOU ARE BETTER THAN THEM? :@)
It has nothing to do with religion.





The fact that homosexuality is approved today as a perfectly acceptable lifestyle by educational instruction and the media makes young people more susceptible to homosexual seduction and orientation. If the popular media warned of the consequences of homosexual behavior, and if flagrant homosexuals retreated a bit back into the closet by societal taboo, few biologically normal people, especially at vulnerable ages, would end up experimenting with or adopting such lifestyle. Such would steer those on the biological-sexual margins toward the heterosexual norm.





The raw truth is that homosexuality is damaging, devolutionary, unhealthy and unesthetic. It leads to disease, maladjustment, suicide and a host of other social ills. Saying that it is natural to those who practice it does nothing to alleviate its maleficence. One could easily argue smallpox is natural, therefore it shouldn't be impeded; or even that HIV/AIDS is a life form that is also one of God's creations, and so we have to right to inhibit it. I sympathize with the unhappy predicament of homosexuals and am saddened by their loss of health, happiness and life. Although homosexuality is often portrayed as a harmless lifestyle, when its superficially humorous characterizations are put aside, homosexuality is a behavior that damages both its participants and society at large.

Did you know that New York passed a gay marriage bill?

Isn't it great? All we have to do now is wait for the bill to pass, which it will! Aren't you all excited? 2 other states have pending gay marriage bills. When all these bills pass (which they will) there would be a total of 8 states legalizing same-sex marriage! WOO-HOOOOO!Did you know that New York passed a gay marriage bill?
And the DC Council just passed a resolution that will recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states (and countries). That is, if Congress doesn't stick its nose into our business and try to overturn what our elected officials have decided.Did you know that New York passed a gay marriage bill?
Good for you, Justin. More power to 'ya.

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We always thought modern liberated women are getting rid of tradition be it old fashioned roles, or marriage a

We always thought modern liberated women are getting rid of tradition be it old fashioned roles, or marriage and the like. Could it be, that as time moves on tradition is getting rid of modern liberated career women, since a lot of them eithier dont marry or have children if they have children its one child and men are favouring traditional women even if they have to get them from the other end of the world ?


Why. Why not ?We always thought modern liberated women are getting rid of tradition be it old fashioned roles, or marriage a
For one, a woman can be a modern woman with career goals and have a sense of old fashioned tradition. Now, to determine what ';tradition'; is, you either mean ';society's'; version of tradition or traditions that is customary within the family unit, meaning, raised on family expectations and the traditions that the family set.





In our Family unit, it's a tradition to start up your career first, marry, then have children. For some odd reason, some are still stuck in their careers to ever marry and have children, while the rest didn't go according to the Family tradition, they had their Family first, married, and struggled for their career.





Oh well, who's to say. Tradition is like a trend. In one day, out the next.We always thought modern liberated women are getting rid of tradition be it old fashioned roles, or marriage a
ACTUALLY there are a lot of modern, liberated women who are happy staying at home raising children or having a career. They are happily married to men who appreciate having a wife who is their equal. Many men are secure enough in their own masculinity to want a woman that challenges them. Then there are men who are afraid of their own shadows. I pick the strong male that is why I am a strong woman. My boyfriend doesn't need to look across the street let alone half way across the world.


It all depends on a person's perceptions.
I dont think all modern liberated women are liberals. Many vote for the democrats. I have always wondered from what exactly the liberated women got liberated. But since I am here to provide answers and not ask questions, here is my answer:





Modern liberated women when left alone and not burdened with old fashioned roles, or marriage and the like and lesser children can find a lot of time at hand and they use it effectively to produce more modern liberated women out of many children reproduced in large numbers by the traditional women.





This answer does not assume either the modern liberated women are to be discriminated ot the traditional women are to be discriminated. If the answer offends anybody, I apologize. It was not my intention to offend the offended.





Thank you
Well, you see, there is one flaw in your argument.





This would only work if the female children of such traditional households were obligated to follow their mother's path, and they're not. I grew up in a rather traditional household, and it has actually made more MORE ';liberated'; as you put it, because I saw what traditional life was like and I don't want that at all. Even if the husband is a decent guy and not abusive, a traditional life can be very unpleasant for the woman. I pity my mom.





(Don't get me wrong, I love both my parents. But I wouldn't want to be in either of their shoes).
Yea, I have an answer.





Um... what?
Possibly. There are ingrained reasons for some traditional roles - when you love somebody and intend to keep a longterm relationship going, the natural progression is to get married. Even the most patient man won't wait forever if the woman is not interested. In many cases they'll just stay together but deep down maybe he WANTED the marriage. As far as children, when a couple has children, it's better if that couple can raise them themselves - which is only possible if both parents are not working full time and career minded instead of one choosing to be with the kids. There is always a sacrifice, whether it is financial/career, or family/home. As far as the age, I know from experience that it is easier in many ways to be a younger parent. The tradeoffs there come in the fact that you may not be as prepared, financially, emotionally, physically. Younger couples tend to have less savings, maybe not have purchased a home yet or finished paying off cars. Maybe they have not finished continuing education. The upside to this is that you may only be 40 or younger when the kids are grown and you can retire ten years later if you've saved for it. You also probably have more energy and more time to sock away for retirement and college. If you wait till later, then you may have a more comfortable life, but you may be in your 60s before the kids are grown. You may have to choose which fund gets the money first, college or retirement. You may have less energy and be able to do less with your kids if your health suffers.





Traditional is great if that's what the couple is comfortable with and what they BOTH want. I think part of the modern and liberated mindset is more or less giving women the power to CHOOSE what SHE wants regardless of what any society rules try to tell her. That's what's most important, not whether traditional or career minded is the better choice.
The problem with that argument would be that you are attaching human characteristics to a mental concept (tradition) and taking it away from the actual humans (women). If the situation you described is the reality we actually find ourselves in, it can only be by the choice of women and their desire for emancipation from men's traditions. I just feel that to ignore the historical responsibility women themselves bear in acheiving their own emancipation is to underestimate them. Women have worked hard to free themselves from what we consider ';tradition'; so to refer to tradition as something out of the control of women is to not give women the credit.
Certainly lot. Although not all of us may be involved in producing it, there will be an entire new generation of career women within the next decade.

Can my husband can my children from a previous marriage on his tax return?

My children do get a disability income from social security because their father is disabled. The kids live with us fulltime.Can my husband can my children from a previous marriage on his tax return?
It depends on more than what you've told us. Court order? Has He adopted them? Depending on these details, I'd say You can, but your hubby can't, given what you have said.


I'm not sure what kind of Penalty He may face if he does so inappropriately. Consult a tax Attorney.Can my husband can my children from a previous marriage on his tax return?
I think your asking if your husband can claim your children on his tax return. The answer is in the instruction book. If you have full custody or physical custody. They live with you for six months and you provide more than half of their support then the answer yes.
that depends on what your divorce decree says. Generally, the parent who pays 50% or more of a child's expenses gets to claim them as a deduction. You may have to go to court to have that evaluated.
As long as you can prove that you support them more than 50%. Of what you get for them from social security. But that doesn't come out of your husbands pocket, So I don't see why you can't.
Usually in the divorce decree it is established who is able to claim the children on the tax returns.
Need more information to give you an intelligent answer without guessing.
if he is financially responcible for them

Question for those of you who were Christians before marriage but converted to Judaism?

How did you decide that you do not believe in Christ anymore? Did you ever? Did you just go through conversion ritual for the sake of marriage?Hope this is not offensive, cause I am just curious.Question for those of you who were Christians before marriage but converted to Judaism?
I can only tell you about the experience of a woman that I know. She married a Jewish man in the mid 50s. She decided to convert for her husband and for her future children. In order to convert she had to sign a blasphemous statement insulting Jesus. She later became very active at her synagogue going so far as to buy a bus for the Yeshiva. Years later she traveled to Israel had a vision of Jesus and became messianic. One of her sons later became a Christian. Her family sat Shiva for the son and disowned him. The family became fragmented.





Years later she regretted most of all what the Rabbi made her do. Conversion to Judaism is a serious thing unless you are absolutely sure of your decision that this is what you want for you don't do it. Don't do it for someone else.Question for those of you who were Christians before marriage but converted to Judaism?
You know, I recall reading, about 10 years ago about a man whose religious background was Christians, but, personally regarded himself as an agnostic. He was engaged to marry a Jewish woman, but, broke off the engagement because her family wanted him to convert to Judaism.





The reason he did not want to convert totally surprised himself: He just could not give up the Lord Jesus.
I'd just like to point out that converting to Judaism is not just a matter of saying ';now I'm Jewish.'; You have to study with a Rabbi for a year or two before conversion and the Rabbis are very good at knowing whether this is a serious commitment or not.
It's strange to me that people can change to whichever religion is convenient to them, like it's a hat or something, but still go on thinking they need religion.
All I can tell you is that I will never give up my love for Yeshua (Jesus) for the love of a man. That is exactly what my dentist did, she used to be a Catholic and converted to Judaism for the love of a man.

What is everyone's opinion on living together before marriage?

I can see how it can have it's good points and it's bad points, but sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that would rather wait until marriage to live with that special someone. Anyone agree? And if not, why not?What is everyone's opinion on living together before marriage?
well because of my own values, i say no. but i can back that up with more than personal conviction.





i don't have the numbers but there have been studies done that outline the couples that live together first actually have a higher divorce rate than those who didn't. why? i think it's because there is no longer anything left to look forward to when you actually do get married. nothing changes. and suddenly marriage has no spark like you had dreamed it would. and so people get fed up.





some will argue that living together helps you to know the real person....which makes sense except that there is still a gaurd up when marriage is not involved so you still don't see all their weaknesses and down points just because you live together.





and no you are not the only one, i gaurentee it. my sister has lived with her bf and they are now broken up and going through a heck of a time as the house was in both of their names. my dh and i had a long distance relationship with lots of phone and email time...which really helped us get to know eachother...and we've been married 5 years. go figure.What is everyone's opinion on living together before marriage?
I'm neutral on actually doing it. We ended up living together for a while before marriage based entirely on finances. He lived in a city 6.5 hours from my parents' place. I had just graduated college and we were 5 months away from the wedding. It would have been stupid for me to go back home to my parents' town to find a job for only 5 months. Made more sense to go ahead and look for employment in the city where I would actually be living. Once that was decided, it was excessively stupid and wasteful to try to get a separate apartment for only 5 months, especially while I was only job-searching at first and not employed.





For those who think they're putting off something special until after marriage, I think they're being a little naive. Like virgins who think their wedding night will be a spectacular night-long session of passionate craziness, when really they'll end up being exhausted from a long day and too nervous for acrobatics anyway. Ridiculous. I fully support people who want to wait till marriage on all fronts. But I hate to hear them try to justify it further. Just say you think it's best, stick to your own guns and be proud of your convictions.





I'm also bothered, though, by those who say you MUST ';try out'; living with your partner before considering marriage. To me, that's way too pessimistic. At that point, you're basically LOOKING for something to be wrong if you think you need to test-drive this person so extensively. And if you're looking, you'll always find something. Whether the relationship will work long-term is based on your ability to solve problems and your respect for each other and such things. Those are things you get to know without having to move in. As for whether there are certain things that would be deal-breakers for you, like smoking or slovenly housekeeping, again, that's something you should know about without having to live with them. So I don't like hearing those people who insist on excessive test-driving.





Humans are NOT cars. You have to get to know them gradually over a long period of time through lots of interaction with them. We test-drive cars for fifteen minutes and then decide whether to buy it. So, to suggest that you pick your spouse through a simple test-drive is retarded. They say they want to test-drive living with them. Want to test-drive having sex with them. Want to test-drive doing holidays with them. Want to test-drive going through their workaholic phase. Want to test-drive going through a medical emergency. Want to test-drive have a financial disaster. Okay... those last ones aren't true. Which is exactly my point. You can't test-drive everything about your future spouse, because ';test-drives'; are short, stupid tests only appropriate for choosing cars. If you want to know what your spouse will be like in all of those areas, you'll have to actually go to the effort of getting to know them like a human.





I think circumstances line themselves up one way or another for different people. That's why the arguments for OR against are both silly.
If you are young, I agree on waiting. The reason is when you get married it is nice to start fresh with a new life. After the age of about 35 and on your second or so marriage living together is more natural. The first, second and third time I waited until after the marriage. This last time it was just natural for us being together, but most people would say living together after being together for 3 days is a bit crazy! So the answer is go with how you feel and it will be the right choice.
There are a lot of other factors that come in to play, but the statistics show that sex before marriage is more apt to lead to divorce later.





I don't know of any positives about it and I am a liberal. When sex enters a relationship, people stop talking and learning about one another -- and the relationship becomes more about sex. Guys get free sex with no commitment. And it's easy to break up with no commitment.



Definitely live together the day i got married was the worst choice i ever made!!! we lived together and one day after 3 years we got married at his suggestion i thought it was okay since we knew each other very well needless to say he only pushed marriage to keep me from leaving so easily(since i told him i would only get married one time and i would do whatever i had to save my marriage !whenever we were just dating) turns out the sorry bastard's 18 years old girlfriend was 5 months pregnant and i had NO CLUE!!! beware just when you think you know someone BAM right between the eyes!
I did it. We survived. Dating and living together are worlds apart. How many people on here sook and whinge cos their hubby/wives changed after marriage - they didnt change, u just didnt get a chance to see them 24/7 with responsibility, pressure and after a bad day at work.





We married after 5 years living together.
For us it worked out well. We lived together for 6 years before we married, and we celebrated our 8th anniversary last month. The marriage ceremony was more of a formality--we had long considered ourselves husband and wife, so getting married served mainly to dot the i's and cross the t's.
Sometimes it's good because you know what you're getting before you make that ultimate commitment. There's nothing wrong with it. I know for myself there are some habits that I can't live with, and at least if you live with someone first, there's no surprises later.
So you live together first. You are sharing a household, bills, cars, friends, and a bed. It's just like being married. Then you get married. Why? What makes it special? I think that if you give up your personal space and live together first, then there is now magic moment that comes with marriage.





Cynical? probably! I'm having too much fun to get married! lol
Lived together for 6 years, I thought he was great. Around the 5 year mark I found out how much of a creepy psycho looser jerk he was. For tax purposes we were treated the same as married....but I didn't have to pay anything to change it back when I got rid of him :)
If you are absolutely positive you will marry then go for it. If not, consider all the trouble you may go through if you break up. I lived with my husband for 1 year before we got married, but we were engaged before we moved in together.
You are right...it is a personal choice. We chose to live together more out of cost controls...but it worked out well for us. I never felt that I had to live together first. Do what makes you happy and your partner will respect that.
I thought the same as you and it made it worse for our marriage we didn't know how to live with each other and couldn't handle how differently we like things. I wish you the best of luck.
It's a HUGE mistake... I lived with my b/f for 4 years. I realized he wasn't the one for me. When I moved on, he stole EVERYTHING from me that I had worked hard to obtain..





It's a no no...
I lived with my BF for 2 yrs B4 we married. I really got to know him well.


We bought a house together, put it in both our names and shared the bills.
if he don't mention any thing about marriage before you move in don;t even think about moving in with him. aint nothing wrong with movin in with the person you love but it's yur choice and opinion about it
I think everyone should do it- it would prevent a lot of divorces by preventing many MARRIAGES!


You would never buy a car without trying it out, why would you choose a life partner without trying out the ';fit';?
I totally agree with you and applaud you for your convictions. I really think it's for the better for both parties.
It depends on the two people. They should agree on the same thing. It's based on your beliefs, morals, values, religion, how you were raised, etc.
Make sure the house is in joint names and its irrelevant if your married or not.

If Conservatives are so against Government why do they want to ban medical Marijuana and Gay marriage?

Right wing Conservatives are the biggest hypocrites on the earth if their so against Government making decisions in peoples lives.Then why do they want Government to ban everything like medical marijuana and gay marriage and gambling.If Conservatives are so against Government why do they want to ban medical Marijuana and Gay marriage?
Government is only good when it's promoting their ideas. When it's promoting someone else's ideas, or being neutral, government is bad.If Conservatives are so against Government why do they want to ban medical Marijuana and Gay marriage?
You have two false assumptions in the main question.


Conservatives aren't against the government. They are opposed to the government doing more than it is intended to do.


And you assume anyone who refers to themselves as ';conservative'; must be both fiscally and socially conservative.





When the religious right tries to but into people's lives one moment, and complain about too much government in the next moment, they are being hypocritical.


But many people who refer to themselves as conservatives are FISCAL conservative, NOT social conservatives. Just like myself.


And although my boyfriend is somewhat socially conservative, he is not passionate about that at all. He would vote for a fiscally conservative gay man over a big-spending anti-gay candidate any old day.
You would be surprised at how many Conservatives would like to see marijuana legalized and taxed, and some of us are neutral on gay marriage. Sometimes being conservative is a matter of wanting fiscal responsibility and smaller government, and that doesn't translate into wanting the government to ban everything and neither does it imply support of candidates that raise the national debt and curtail freedoms.


I voted against Bush and I voted against Obama because in both cases I could see the national debt would grow unchecked and personal freedoms would be under attack. Another thing you may not expect is that I see a huge difference between a Liberal and a Leftist. I have respect for Liberals who also believe in fiscal responsibility and smaller government. Leftists represent more government interference and less rights, all coming with a hefty price tag.
Another loon liberal that doesn't understand the difference between federal and state government.





The federal government has no business passing laws that are inherently state issues.





I can be staunchly against medical marijuana because it has no real medical value and be against gay marriages because I think that they are wrong. I will address these issues with the STATE government where they belong. I can also be against the FEDERAL government interfering with my decisions, as well as your decisions.





If you are going to make comments about what conservatives believe, at least take the time to understand what we believe.....
because gays do not deserve any more rights for being gay, aka gay marriage...





homosexuality is not the norm, aka a dysfunction PROVEN to be that in this new book:





';What Nature Intended, Six Factors Demonstrating Homosexuality to be a Dysfuntion';





http://whatnatureintended.com/home





even if you just read the definitions of what Pathology is and Disease is they show the dysfunction that homosexuality is, example:





book excerpts:





';...what is Pathology? Well, let’s see the definitions of it in the dictionaries....';





';...here is the definition in Dictionary.com, another on-line dictionary:





1. The science or the study of the origin, nature, and course of diseases.


2. The conditions and processes of a disease.


3. Any deviation from a healthy, normal, or efficient condition...';








';...We can go on to the definition of Disease; here is the definition of it as defined in Dictionary.com:





1. Disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.


2. Any abnormal condition in a plant that interferes with its vital physiological processes, caused by pathogenic microorganisms, parasites, unfavorable environmental, genetic, or nutritional factors, etc.


3. Any harmful, depraved, or morbid condition, as of the mind or society: His fascination with executions is a disease.


Decomposition of a material under special circumstances: tin disease....';








';...Again, we can see that even the definition of Disease says it is an incorrect functioning of sorts, and abnormal condition, even any harmful, depraved or morbid condition. And like we saw in Chapter 5 many of the Homosexual sexual practices match these definitions to a “T”...';





after that... case close!
I'm a conservative who wants pot to be legal and not just for medical reasons, don't believe anybody should have to get permission from the government to marry and believes a woman should be able to choose abortion but not choose to ask me pay for it.
Because they (social conservatives) are hypocrites.





They only want less goverment intrusion for people who aren't gay, own guns and believe in Jesus. Everyone else should be subject to as much government intrusion as possible.
First, because Conservatives are against illegal drugs.





Second, Conservatives don't ';want to ban... Gay marriage';, they don't want Gays to change the laws to require ';Gay marriage'; (your perspective on this issue is backwards)
So says the liberals who ***** about privacy, yet have no problem going into the personal lives of their opponents
Because it makes other people happy, and if it makes other people happy it's OK for the government to step in and end it.
They don't like government being involved in peoples lives yet whine when they can't get government to ban abortion. I smells something funky eh?
Because it would be another instance of govt sticking its nose where it doesn't belong. Meaning ';less'; govt not ';more'; govt. That doesn't sound so hypocritical.
haha very true.
There's a difference- those are what you call ';social conservatives';. Wise up before you rant.
Youre lumping all conservatives in the same bag. Most of us just dont give a **** what you want to do as long as it doesnt effect us.
Because they are for government intervention when it suits their ideals.
You have to include them wanting to make decisions for pregnant women too.
They hate helping people in need, but they love taking away their rights.

Can my husband can my children from a previous marriage on his tax return?

My children do get a disability income from social security because their father is disabled. The kids live with us fulltime.Can my husband can my children from a previous marriage on his tax return?
It depends on more than what you've told us. Court order? Has He adopted them? Depending on these details, I'd say You can, but your hubby can't, given what you have said.


I'm not sure what kind of Penalty He may face if he does so inappropriately. Consult a tax Attorney.Can my husband can my children from a previous marriage on his tax return?
I think your asking if your husband can claim your children on his tax return. The answer is in the instruction book. If you have full custody or physical custody. They live with you for six months and you provide more than half of their support then the answer yes.
that depends on what your divorce decree says. Generally, the parent who pays 50% or more of a child's expenses gets to claim them as a deduction. You may have to go to court to have that evaluated.
As long as you can prove that you support them more than 50%. Of what you get for them from social security. But that doesn't come out of your husbands pocket, So I don't see why you can't.
Usually in the divorce decree it is established who is able to claim the children on the tax returns.
Need more information to give you an intelligent answer without guessing.
if he is financially responcible for them

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