Thursday, May 13, 2010

Why should gay marriage be illegal just because your religion says its icky, I mean a sin?

Do you have a better reason than God told me it is bad.Why should gay marriage be illegal just because your religion says its icky, I mean a sin?
Ok, so this is based on what I have heard from Christians (as well as logic) and is minimally scientific for the purpose of...well...christians who are reading it:





God gave man free will. Free will means that man has the choice whether to be with god or forsake him.





The justification that is given against homosexuality is that, despite mounting evidence to the contrary (ie the reasonable justification of the homosexual trait as a trait that increases fertility in females), homosexuality is a choice by man to forsake god, and is therefore an abomination, as is stated in the bible.





Animals were not blessed with free will, so they go about their lives as they were created by god. Man was given dominion over all the animals of the planet because they do not possess free will.





Now:





Homosexuality has been proven to occur naturally in animals.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/


http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20…


http://primordial-blog.blogspot.com/2007…


http://www.q.co.za/news/1999/9906/990615…


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuali…


http://www.news-medical.net/?id=20718


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_an…





(Just a few sources because people questioned it last time)





so, If





there are homosexual animals





and if





animals do not have free will





then





homosexuality in animals must be a naturally occurring phenomenon (In other words, they were made that way)





and if





homosexuality is a naturally occurring phenomenon in animals, the same must be true about human beings as per simple reasoning





(A logical person would see that if one species has the ';free will'; trait and one does not





and that both of the two species share the potential to carry a trait such as homosexuality





Then homosexuality must arise independently of the ';free will'; trait)





If Homosexuality is then naturally occurring in humans, it is not a choice that some humans make to turn their backs on god.





If homosexuality is not a choice made by homosexuals, then it is logical to assume that homosexuals are as much in “god's image” as heterosexuals, and deserve all the same rights as heterosexual couples.





Long story short, ';God's word'; must have been misinterpreted, or was not the word of ';God'; in the first place.





Isn't reason just wonderful?





By the way, not gay, proud defender of equality and rational thought.





Besides, from a legal standpoint:





Marriage as a state institution has nothing to do with marriage in the church. All citizens of the United States have equal rights under the law and to deny homosexuals the civil institution of marriage is the same as if you were denying it to blacks or Hispanics. I’m not saying that your religion can’t refuse to marry them in churches, (bigotry in my opinion but whatever, it’s a club so you’re entitled) just that according to our constitution, freedom is the same for everyone.





So it's not unnatural and we all know that quoting scripture alone is circular logic so what else could it be? I mean even if it is a ';sin';, homosexuality is a victimless ';sin';Why should gay marriage be illegal just because your religion says its icky, I mean a sin?
';...they didn't have a better reason.'; You are clearly insane and blind.

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marriage is man-made

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Because I'm against it on grounds other than biblical reasons. The Constitution does not ';create'; rights and there exists no legal precedence for granting gays extra-Constitutional rights (other than activist judges claiming otherwise).


Chosen lifestyles should never be afforded legally protected status.





Do you have a reason for supporting it other than it intentionally goes against the bible, and because you just want to appear ';enlightened'; and all fuzzy inside for supporting something that accrues to no societal advantage whatsoever?








Such thinking is in and of itself a social disease that needs to be stamped out resolutely.





Besides, God didn't say anything about ';gay marriage' itself.





Hmmm. I wonder why? Maybe because He said homosexuality itself is an abomination and further shouldn't ever need to address something like ';gay marriage'; in the first place?





Because maybe it's automatically understood by reasonable and thinking persons everywhere as such?





Oh, - and God ';said so';. Don't like it?





Sue Him. I'm sure that whacky California 9th Circus Court of No appeal will be glad to let you file a motion to do so.
I don't really care whether it's illegal or not--it's wrong if you believe the Bible--God can and has punished sin severly (any and ALL sin) and the Bible does say homosexuality is a sin. Everyone sins, Christians are far from perfect and don't claim to be, at least I hope not, God did NOT create homosexuality just like he didn't create any sin no matter what it is. The key difference in this should be that the ACT of homosexuality is wrong, not that there's anything personal against the person. God hates promiscuity just as much as homosexuality which gay or straight commit daily in this culture.
Gay people can't help being gay, they are born that way. It's not fair to deny them happiness just because they don't do what everyone else does. Them being gay doesn't affect any straight person, it affects your life in no way. So why not let them be happy to? The only reason people have is like you said ';because god told them to';. They don't think for themselves, they just read the bible. If god is so great, shouldn't he accept everyone? They do nothing to hurt anyone, so i see nothing wrong with it. Religious people are blind followers of a book.
Just call it something else. Civil union, etc.





Biologically speaking, marriage is the civilized practice or institution of joining the human sexual partners for reproduction. Any deviation from this definition is scientifically defined as a ';perversion'; of human biology.
My reasons for being against gay marriage are as much secular as they are spiritual. You can't redefine words or institutions just to suit someones perverted behavior, It contributes greatly to the degradation of society and sends confusing messages to an already confused generation of youths, It not only harms those practicing but society as a whole, Not one single society of the past that has adopted this behavior has survived, And everyone that has has crumbled as a result, Why do you think we would be any different ? I am 100 % behind helping homosexuals and getting them the help and treatment they need, But accommodating their perverted behavior is not going to accomplish that, The only thing it's going to accomplish is sending them the message that this behavior is normal and prolong their road to recovery. Merry CHRISTmas ! %26amp; God bless !
Try to take two plugs and plug them into each other - is there electricity? No. A plug goes into an outlet then it works.





Gay Marriage has nothing to do about religion. It is just wrong. Marriage has always been between one man and one woman. PERIOD.





If we cave in now, then in ten years will be debating marrying children. In twenty five years we will be debating marrying animals. In fifty years will be debating marrying radiators, coffee makers, hockey sticks, and BMWS.
Because, polygamy is so much better, right? That's what everyone in the bible does!


Haha religions know nothing. Screw them, God made the gay people, so shouldn't these God Worshippers accept gay marriage?
LOL @ icky. I don't think it's icky, I think it's hot ;-)





And no, I can assure you nobody has any reasons besides ';it's a sin... it's gross...etc'; aka they really don't know they just say what their pastors told them
Better reason. That is the best reason! gays don't deserve marriage. It is a christian institution.
gay marriage should be illegal because that's what the people want.
The carnal mind finds no fault with a gay marriage, but divine love never made it. Each person must make choices on earth. If wrong, then truth will correct them as needed.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;…
Icky. . .(lol)





I once asked--because I was so naive back then, and had a burning desire to know--my gay room mate how he and his boyfriend ';did it.';





Wish I hadn't asked.
Well if you believe in God then that should be enough. If you don't then it's just unnatural.
icky lolol





that was funny
I personally would leave it up to GOD...WHo am I to Say that Mr. SULU from Star Trek and Ellen can't be married.??
Why should the rule of the council of many people where wisdom be overthrown for the council of few where tyranny resides? That is, why do gays hate democracy all of a sudden? Four imposed this on everyone. How democratic! First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes nero in a 10 fold carriage.





This is just a trumped up excuse to sue the churches, temples, and mosques. One must confine such 'union's to other places would be nice to hear in a law, instead, which would help many people to be able to deal with the issue as some had falsely started this division for whatever motive available including suing centers of faith for non compliance.


What non Hypocrisy they proclaim while approving and doing the same evils and works that they point out in the bible examples given so that everyone could come to repentance and a knowledge of the Gospel truth. These same, who complain, have had many partners for sex themselves. What makes them our spiritual guide, then?
Gay marriage is unnatural, disgusting, and repulsive, just to put it nicely. It should definitely be illegal, and harsh punishments should be in place for those who break this law.
God made man and woman, and they can make love and reproduce. Their genital shows that one fit to the other and can reproduce.





In homosexuality, their genital can't fit one to another. And if they use other things that's disgusting before God.
Because the lifespan of a Homosexual is shorter than average. So if your for Gay behavior your for taking peoples lives. And if you are against it you are trying to spare their lives. I do it because I love them.
Becuase religion is proven by laws of science. If we want to play God any further, we may aswell just set the earth on fire and clal it ';Hell';.
First because God said it is an abomination in his sight,


and second have you ever explained to a child as to why


are those men kissing mommy,,and it just look,s nasty.
It is an unnatural unclean act.





Vile affections, passions of infamy, and disgrace.





Repugnant !!
the uh erm defitinition yeah words will uh hmm soon mean whatever people want them to mean it'll be vocabulary chaos cat will mean dog mass hysteria my god WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!
Yep
rebel only the lord can judge.


yes crossing dressing is a sin
look up the word moral(s).
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