Is the fact a gay couple can't produce offspring REALLY an issue in allowing gay marriage?

When I see a Christian who opposes gay marriage try to give secular reasons why we should not allow it (I say secular, although religious reasons do seem to leek into it constantly) one of the main things they talk about is that gay people cannot naturally have a family and produce offspring.





Is this truely an issue? Do we not let infertile straight couples get married? Or would Christians like to outlaw that to for what they call 'secular' reasons?Is the fact a gay couple can't produce offspring REALLY an issue in allowing gay marriage?
Honest answer? For some it is. Certain churches will refuse to marry you if they know that you cannot produce children, and marriages have been annulled for those reasons, and some do oppose infertile couples or those who desire no children to be able to marry.





For others, it isn't.





Edit: postmoderndan--yes they do. Certain baptist and non-denominational churches in my area will not marry a couple if they cannot procreate, saying they cannot truly become one flesh. Some Catholics take a similar view.Is the fact a gay couple can't produce offspring REALLY an issue in allowing gay marriage?
Of course not. You cannot expect someone who opposes gay marriage (or any other thing) on a religious base to give a secular reason to it. If it was an issue, as you say, infertile straight couples shouldn't be allowed to married. What about couples who got married then can't have children? should they be forced to divorce then? What about straight couples who do not want to have children?


I prefer people who oppose such a thing because simply by sayingthat ';it's not natural'; and that ';maybe it's because they were raised differently'; - thus leaving a space open for different opinions. At least they are honest with the apprehension they feel about it.





To Aine's Daughter: ';Certain churches will refuse to marry you if they know that you cannot produce children, and marriages have been annulled for those reasons'; See, it's religion all over again.
In my experience, it's not the issue at all, it's another way of justifying their bigotry and ensuring that homosexual couples cannot receive fair and just treatment or equal rights.





I have known many people to get married in their 60's and 70's in a church with absolutely no arguments whatsoever about their inability to have children because of their age.





America needs to look to Europe, where gay marriage has been legal in most countries for years now, and see that straight people are still living perfectly happily, and there are no more gay people than before gay marriage was legalised. It's our business at the end of the day, and all of these God fearing, evangelical Christians should not be allowed to dictate to us what rights are available to us, and try to ammend the constitution to justify their homophobia.
That argument is based around the fact that the human body has parts designed for reproduction and it is those parts that are to be used together in sexual union, whether they function properly or not has no bearing on their purpose.





Homosexuality is a complete contradiction, it perverts the sexual union into something completely unnatural and involves those body parts, and other body parts, in ways totally opposed to their design and common decency.





So yes this is an issue, at least to those people that have morals and an understanding of right and wrong. This is regardless of whether the Bible approves or not.
';Homosexuality is against the will of god'; - then why on earth did he allow me to be here? If god was as powerful as Christians claim him to be then surely I would be heterosexual. And I'm fed up with being told it's a choice - it isn't.





Of course the only reasons against gay marriage are religious ones. Interestingly, the British House of Lords contains bishops and half of them voted in favour on the grounds that it promotes stable relationships.
Take away everything and get to the basics...





Homosexuality is an abomination.





Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.





Marriage is between a male and a female





1Cr 7:2 Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.








Eze 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.





Eze 33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.








Eze 33:11 Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?





God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked. Seek truth and turn from sin and live.
i am totally for gays, so you call them that in my culture we call them the third spirit. and coming from my own experiences as a unsure male trying to find where he stands as a straight or gay or bi or whatever. really the fact of a male and male relationship is a beautiful idea of compassion, of men be open of there true nature of love, and it doesn't even have to be with another guy. people needs to start looking at gay people as a blessing over coming blindness and solitude, being gay is not about having sex, or being horny, that the sexual side, but the truth is being gay is like a long forgotten fantasy of true love. so it doesn't matter about having children, its about companionship, friendship, its about soul love, and with that anything is unstoppable. **** gay marriage, thats for heteros. da**mn what a good story to create.
Yep. That would mean--





Women OVER 40, cannot marry!!! Since they have passed menopause and can no longer produce children. So if they marry, its just all a sham.





And INFERTILE men and women can say goodbye to marriage. Their's is also a sham and they must be divorced. Because they are really just marrying for sex not to have children, and that is obviously just immoral.





And people who marry and CHOOSE NOT to HAVE CHILDREN, should also be banned from marriage. Because again they have defied the purpose of God.





And people who marry and use CONTRACEPTION, should also be banned from marriage. Since again they are defying the will of God by enjoying sex without reproduction which is a sin. And that also goes for FELLATIO and other non-Christian sexual practises which fail to produce offspring.





So . . . if you going to ban gay marriage on the grounds of ';the purpose of marriage is to reproduce'; then you should be consistent right across the board..
If you want to Know why SODOM AND GOMORRAH were destroyed then think again and read the Bible.Believe me or not Homesexuality is very evil to God.Why do you think God created woman for man and said a man shall leave his mother and father and be joined with his wife and they will become one flesh.So if i may ask did God ever say man shall leave his fathers house and be joined with a man and become one flesh?? You know what is good and what is evil to God's site ever since adam and eve ate of the fruit of good and evil!!
Not being able to reproduce is not the reason. The reason is that marriage is an institution designed by God for one man and one woman who make a covenant before God to love each other and raise their children in accordance with His teachings. This institution is for the welfare of humanity in many ways.
That is hardly a secular reason. Most of these Christians oppose even contraceptives. It's a completely religious reason.





I don't feel it should be an issue. The world is overpopulated anyway.
The only place where God honors sex is in the marriage bed between a man and his wife. Any sex in any other way is unacceptable Homosexuality is a perversion of what God made sex for, which is the union of a man and his wife.
Christians are simply uncomfortable with the idea of gay marriage. But then they try to rationalize it and it's quite funny, yet also very unintelligent and aggravating.
No, it's not, but it is an excuse. I have yet to see a secular reason for not having gay marriage. Every reason goes back to religion.
bigots will never be rational


many do ignore that some heteros can't reproduce


they lie that same-sex couples aren't natural and then try to redefine what the argument is
i dont see why it is i mean





a) there are straight married couples who dont want to or cannot produce offspring


b) and their are straight people like my wifes sister who shouldnt
What Christians are you talking about? The Bible says that a man and woman are married to be ';one flesh'; whether they have children or not. No one has ever heard a Christian say what you are claiming. The underpinning premise of your question borders on a slander.
God sent a men %26amp; woman together, Why because they can produce, But 2 gays or 2 lesbians can not produce.
your ignorant, it's as simple as boys parts don't fit each other\girls parts don't fit together. duh! but one boy part+one girl part=A PERFECT FIT!! (Wow! Imagine That!)
It is proof that homosexuality is against nature and against the will of God.