Is the rate at which conservatives have illegitimate children and divorce each other what threatens marriage?

Your marriage is really your own responsibility, isn't it? And gays really can't have any effect on it, right? And if you try to scapegoat them for all your marriage woes, it shows a tremendous lack of integrity and unwillingness to face up to your own faults, yes?Is the rate at which conservatives have illegitimate children and divorce each other what threatens marriage?
To answer you headline question; no, it isn't. It is the ease of gaining divorce, best exemplified in no-fault divorce, that threaten the institution of marriage. Conservative or liberal, Republican or Democrat, or none of the above, all suffer from the relaxation.


Yes, marriage is the responsibility of the people joined in the institution. However, look at the temptation to take the easy way out that pervade all of society nowadays, not just marriage.


Yes, homosexuals CAN affect marriage; allowing them to marry further erodes the meaning of marriage from one man, one woman, forever joined to a closer definition of whoever your current sexual partner is today. Don't get me wrong; heterosexuals and divorce bear the brunt of the responsibility for this erosion, but at the same time, the push to allow homosexuals to marry people of the same sex further erodes the institution.


Just think; if divorce laws were not relaxed generations ago, there is a good chance homosexuals would not want to marry at all, let alone one of the same sex.


By the way, I do indeed favor restricting divorce. It erodes the family unit more than anything, and out of all I have lost in life, I miss my family the most.


Edit: To Elway: I'm not pretending. Divorce does ruin the sanctity of marriage. Many times, I have been on here saying so, and in fact, people who were in favor of easing divorce laws were calling those against it similar names 120+ years ago that those in favor of homosexual marriage are today; they were called cruel, paranoid, hate mongers and more when they argued that easing divorce laws would lead to more single parent families, more children born out of wedlock, higher welfare roles, declining education standards, rise in divorce (one response at the time: Why would anyone want to live with such a stigma?), and the breakup of extended families. Yes they were so wrong on what will happen.


I don't want same sex marriage AND I want tougher divorce laws. I'm not avoiding the elephant in the room; I'm aiming my weapons at it.


I triple dog dare you, or anyone else, to research those arguments as I have and tell me I'm wrong.Is the rate at which conservatives have illegitimate children and divorce each other what threatens marriage?
I don't know about the illegitimate children aspect, but conservatives against gay marriage have always asserted gay marriage threatens the sanctity of marriage while ignoring the incredible divorce rate in this country. It's one of their worst hypocrisies. Anyone whose own marriage is affected by Jane and Suzy down the street getting married has much bigger issues than gay marriage.





EDIT: How any of them can claim this a terrible analogy obviously haven't been paying attention. The SANCTITY of marriage has been a main talking point of theirs. DIVORCE has been the elephant in the room that they try to ignore while they're talking about that sanctity. Pretending that one has nothing to do with the other is a perfect example of being deliberately obtuse.
Agree 100%.


Bob and John who live up the street and get married, does not effect my marriage whatsoever.





I have a southern Christian friend, who I must say is a fun person, but she is only 30, and has been married 5 times. She doesn't see anything wrong in that. Even though she took vows all 5 times.


I am not saying all southern Christians are like her, but I must say there are quite a few.
There are a lot of things that threatens marriage, and in the conservatives own words destroy the sanctity of marriage. One is divorce, but others are shows like ';Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire';, and ';The Bachelor';. Where is the sanctity there?
Stupid gay marriage analogy.





Many Democrats are against gay marriage too, even Obama was, but who knows now?





Why do you gays twist and twist and keep missing making a good point?





Crawl back to your closet %26amp; leave the rest of us alone.
It's not just cons who have a high divorce rate. Dems and Reps both contribute to the far-too-high divorce rate.





I agree though. If anything ruins the ';sanctity of marriage';, it's the constant adultery and divorces, not gay marriage.
The only threat to a marriage are those who are married to one another. That is it.





They used the same ';sanctity'; argument to try and make interracial marriages illegal.





Nobody can logically argue against gay marriage.
Yes. Exactly right. A gay marriage in no way affects the quality of a heterosexual marriage. If it's weak, it's internal.
Yes. Isn't their hypocrisy funny?





rudy giuliani has been married three times, yet he thinks he's the republican poster boy for ';family values';
What a ridiculous question. You clearly don't understand why some people are against gay marriage.
what? is there a question in this that you do not have the answer to already?
Very weak analogy. VERY weak.